On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Picker-Mahoney, Brendan S. - AVD Pgm Admin <Brendan.Picker@denvergov.org> wrote:

Hi Jo,
 
Just wanted to send you an example from Denver. This piece, titled “Mine Craft” was designed by San Diego artist Miki Iwasaki. It was integrated into the façade of our historic McNichols Building (the first public library built in Denver with support from the Carnegie family). We worked with our historic preservation commission to approve the design. Part of what helped our case was that even though it was integrated into a façade as “gates” or doorways” on the building, it was designed by an artist and has a narrative that can be explained as an artwork – in this case pointing to the many materials mined from Colorado and the artist’s hope that we honor our connection to natural resources.
Also, we were careful not to attach the art to any of the historic elements of the original building. The anchor points at the bottom are in new concrete. And the top attachments are anchored into stone from the 1950s renovation of the building, not the original 1908 stone.
 
Happy to chat more over the phone if you think that will help.
 
All the best!
 
 
Brendan Picker | Public Art Program Administrator
Denver Arts & Venues | City and County of Denver
p: (720) 865-5563 | 
Brendan.Picker@denvergov.org

 Hi Joanna:
A good example of what you are looking for is Asaroton 76, the Bicentennial competition winning sculpture by Mags Harries in Boston’s Haymarket. It consists of a cross walk in the market which is covered by the market’s vendors and trash during the week end and reveals the art work during the week. It started as a political scandal because “it was bronze garbage cast into the street, not art”, then it became a much loved art piece and an officially designated landmark. It is now being Re-created for the third time, as required by municipal ordinance, after the Big Dig and the construction of a hotel. You can find it on line under Asaroton 76 Mags Harries sculpture.

Lajos Heder
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This point is a very important one to pay attention to!  A determination that artwork integrated into a building becomes the facade or otherwise inseparable from the architectural elements could potentially undermine artists’ abilities to claim copyright protection for the work.  This is an argument being made by Mercedes in the group of mural cases for which they have filed declaratory judgment actions.  It is imperative that independently created artwork, even if affixed to a building, be considered a separate work from the building itself.  If infringers are able to successfully argue that the copyright law’s building exceptions applies to artwork affixed to the building, all artwork integrated into architectural environments risks losing copyright protection.  There are some interesting and meaty issues here that bear further consideration, but given your current situation, the seems that what is most imperative is that the City Council and the Historic Commission become more educated about these issues . . . and quickly!  Please let me know if more information on these points would be helpful in your presentations—happy to speak with you further.
 
Best,
Sarah 
 
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On October 23, 2019 at 6:42:34 AM, Davis, Joanna (jdavis@cityoflancasterpa.com) wrote:

These are all extremely helpful and applicable examples. They will do the job nicely 😊
 
Lynn, one impediment from folks appreciating the artwork is that there has been a huge clash with our Historical Commission. Some do not agree that it actually is artwork because it is integrated into a building. They argue it is a façade. Examples of similar work have been dismissed as “the type of thing for a larger city – not us”. So examples of work integrated into a building would be great, especially if they are in a smaller city and somewhat celebrated.
 
This issue will set a precedent for us. Integrating artwork into construction is a focus area of our ten-year plan and so subsequently we will better define the ordinances to deal with the next one that comes down the line.
 
How do other cities with Historic Districts navigate the approval of public art? Examples of ordinances that give Public Art Commissions credence would be fantastic.
 
 
Thanks so much!! I feel like I have a lifeline because of this listserv!
 
Jo
 
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Hi, Jo
All of these examples so far are of free-standing, monumental artworks.  Were you asking about art that is integrated into a building, that is constructed concurrent with that building?  Like a terrazzo floor, for example?
Lynn
 
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Subject: I Need Names of Iconic Artworks That Had A Rocky Start
 
Hi PAN Pals,
 
City Council is reviewing our first major project that integrates public art into building construction drawings. Due to a lack of understanding about this type of work and unfortunate press, many community members are outraged against it, including our Historical Commission. (Many are for it as well)
 
Council is voting tonight and I would love to give them examples of some iconic public artworks that when first shown to the public people were up in arms about. I want to make the point that it is necessary to trust the vision of artists commissioned by the Public Art Advisory Board because if we just see with our eyes of today we will stay in today. Can anyone give me the names of a few that would be easily recognized by the general public?
 
Thanks so much!
Jo
 
Joanna Davis 
Public Art Manager, City of Lancaster, PA
 
Lancaster Public Art
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