Thanks Jon. These aren’t murals per se but large painted MSE walls for light rail with colors and form liners chosen by the artist. Some type of fill/stone is surely behind them.

Chris Lange

Art-in-Transit Program Administrator

Charlotte Area Transit System (CATS)

600 East Fourth Street Charlotte, NC 28202

P. 704-432-2391 / ridetransit.org

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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 12:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Anti-graffiti coatings on painted retaining walls

Dearest HWWODOCPAG,

Oh, venerable one, please don’t tantalize us with your knowledge; what are the techniques you have used to reduce/eliminate graffiti on murals? I agree that coatings are not the necessarily the solution.

Susan Pontious

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From: public_art_network@americansforthearts.simplelists.com [mailto:public_art_network@americansforthearts.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Jon Pounds
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 7:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Anti-graffiti coatings on painted retaining walls

Do the retaining walls have soil/rainwater behind them? Chicago experience is that you want/need a breathable primer in those cases. i.e. gesso breathes much better than polys or epoxies.

There are other techniques (developed over years of conscious attention) that have been very effective in reducing/eliminating graf on murals (at least in Chicago). Many of our murals don't even have coatings on top of the color - the fewer the layers of paint applied, the better the wall will breathe.

Jon Pounds - HWWODOCPAG

He Who Was Once Director Of Chicago Public Art Group

On 1/4/18 7:58 AM, Lange, Christopher wrote:

Hello PAN ListServ,

We are looking for recommendations of anti-graffiti coatings on painted retaining walls that use a two part Sherwin Williams system of Macropoxy 646 (primer) and Acrolon 218 Polyurethane. If any of you have any products you’ve had success with in the past in this type of application that doesn’t affect the finished wall color, please share.

Thank you,

Chris Lange

Art-in-Transit Program Administrator

Charlotte Area Transit System (CATS)

600 East Fourth Street Charlotte, NC 28202

P. 704-432-2391 / ridetransit.org
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