We have structural engineers that we work with for a much lower fee, especially if you can bundle several related things together. We used to spend about $200 a piece, but now we have found someone specifically
engaged in working with artists and arts organizations who is even better.
Roberta
Roberta Bloom, Public Art Coordinator
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14949 E. Alameda Pkwy., Aurora, CO 80012
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On Behalf Of Rudd, Karen
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:34 AM
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Subject: RE: At What Point Is a Structural Engineer Needed?
Hi Joanna,
I have never been able to hire an engineer for under $1,000 but maybe it varies depending on location and/or who is asking. Our Public Works engineers often review projects and make installation recommendations for smaller projects. This
usually satisfies the Risk Manager for temporary, art panel, or banner installations.
Good luck,
Karen Rudd,
Manager
Marketing and Communicatons
City Hall, Suite 409
810 Union Street, Norfolk, VA 23510
757-664-6883 cell 757-284-8445
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On Behalf Of Charles Bergen
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:26 AM
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Joanna,
If you are attaching anything to a wall apart from paint you probably should be at least asking a structural engineer if they have any concerns. A very light sheet metal sculpture or even a fabric banner with gromments and cable attachments
could do a lot of damage to someone's head or face in high winds or if it is caked with ice. Even indoors if something falls. As you are not an engineer I would recommend you DO NOT put in conditions as to when or when not to consult a structural engineer.
You could expose yourself and the city to a lot of liability. I would always require at least a cursory review by a structural engineer. It would be $200 or $300 well spent.
Thank you,
Charles Bergen AIA LEED AP
Charles Bergen Studios
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Davis, Joanna <JDavis@cityoflancasterpa.com> wrote:
Hello PAN Pals,
We are establishing a permit for artists to install temporary public art on city property. There is an area on the permit to supply contact info of a PA State licensed engineer that will be reviewing the project. Since most work will be ephemeral, I’d like to explain in the permit that this is only needed for works that__________ (Maybe exceed a certain weight or some other characteristic)
I will consult my Public Works team to see what they feel comfortable according to City codes, etc., but am wondering if in our field there is some rule of thumb that I am not aware of.
Thanks so much!!!!
Jo
Joanna Davis Seedorf
Public Art Manager, City of Lancaster, PA
Lancaster Public Art
Phone (717) 291-4829
Mobile (717) 844-2213
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