it depends on the project. That $1000 price maybe a "special" price for government. Typically a senior engineer charges $150-$250 an hour. One engineer that I work with charges $500 per site visit. Those are Washington, DC Prices. An artist should be able establish a relationship with a small structural engineer and give them regular work which the engineer gets paid for. As each new project comes along the artist runs the project by the engineer to get their input. this typically costs nothing.

Thank you,

Charles Bergen AIA LEED AP


Charles Bergen Studios



On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Rudd, Karen <Karen.Rudd@norfolk.gov> wrote:

Hi Joanna,

I have never been able to hire an engineer for under $1,000 but maybe it varies depending on location and/or who is asking. Our Public Works engineers often review projects and make installation recommendations for smaller projects.  This usually satisfies the Risk Manager for temporary, art panel, or banner installations.

 

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Joanna,

 

If you are attaching anything to a wall apart from paint you probably should be at least asking a structural engineer if they have any concerns. A very light sheet metal sculpture or even a fabric banner with gromments and cable attachments could do a lot of damage to someone's head or face in high winds or if it is caked with ice. Even indoors if something falls. As you are not an engineer I would recommend you DO NOT put in conditions as to when or when not to consult a structural engineer. You could expose yourself and the city to a lot of liability. I would always require at least a cursory review by a structural engineer. It would be $200 or $300 well spent.


Thank you,

 

Charles Bergen AIA LEED AP

 

 

Charles Bergen Studios

 

 

 

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Davis, Joanna <JDavis@cityoflancasterpa.com> wrote:

Hello PAN Pals,

 

We are establishing a permit for artists to install temporary public art on city property. There is an area on the permit to supply contact info of a PA State licensed engineer that will be reviewing the project. Since most work will be ephemeral, I’d like to explain in the permit that this is only needed for works that__________ (Maybe exceed a certain weight or some other characteristic)

 

I will consult my Public Works team to see what they feel comfortable according to City codes, etc., but am wondering if in our field there is some rule of thumb that I am not aware of.

 

Thanks so much!!!!

 

Jo

 

Joanna Davis Seedorf

Public Art Manager, City of Lancaster, PA

 

Lancaster Public Art

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